Threll and Rexilar

[tanis]

    I was wondering, if Threll and Rexilar's people were enemies, wouldn't it make sense if they were enemies too? And if so wouldn't that make Threll the rival mage who imprisoned Rexilar? Oh well, I'sa jest wundrin'.

[avisarr]

Actually yes, you're right. Those two mages were enemies. More information on that is coming... the ruins of Rexilar will touch on that and there will be more coming later. But yes, absolutely, they were enemies.

[tanis]

     Thought so. At one time, I found some more information on that, some things about Asylum, and something with Night's Jewel, probably whatever it is you were talking about with the colors, but when I went back, I couldn't find them anywhere. Did you remove these things, or is this just more confirmation that I'm a terrible looker.

[Eltern]

My Khoras campaign is starting back up next weekend, and so I'm back in the boards :-) My players are headed into Kalimura/Talis/Bathynia, specifically to "find Rexilar", so I'm trying to pin down the history of the place.

Do you have an explicit timeline of the events that took place in that area? I think I've figured out the general order of events, but obviously some of what's written are untrue legends, not what actually happened. From what I can find, there's an issue of Rexilar living a -long- time, the legend of Threll being incorrect, and/or the phellysian creation myth being a little off. Here's what I have:

1. Rexilar created the phellysians immediately around the time of the Sundering ("The two suns began their endless dance...")
    -The phellysians may have overthrown Rexilar ("Tanluris, the lands and estates own by    that wizard, fell to the feline race... all of its land and resources.")
2. the phellysians fought with the Bathyn, and took some prisoners (including Threll)
3. Threll leads the prisoners out of Talis, and is on his way to becoming the leader of the Bathyn.
4. Threll becomes a sorceror
5. Threll dies during the Age of Chaos (1CY - 88CY) of "sickness" (Mage's Madness or Miradic Syndrome? It would make sense for Threll to be a wild mage)
6. Rexilar hid away in the Stone Phellysian during the Great Way (starting 89 CY -340 CY)
7. Threll (or some other rival to Rexilar, I'm assuming Threll because of no other named possibilities) finds the Stone Phellysian and traps him within it.
8. Rexilar's rival is slain, and the Stone Phellysian wanders out of the record books.

(Yes, I am an academic. Sorting through large quantities of source texts to produce a conclusion is a big part of what I do ;-) Normally it's better presented and cited than this, though. My apologies.) So...there is some considerable ambiguity. David, would you mind shedding some light on what actually happened? Or have you not made it up, yet? :-D

In my campaign, the activities of many long-dead wizards, including Rexilar, are having big effects on the PCs now, so they're trying to dig up as much information as possible.

On a related note, I see you're doing ruins for this month! Well...last month! Do you have any notes on Rexilar and Threll's ruins you're planning on putting up?

Thanks!

[avisarr]

Yes, you're right, there are a couple of discrepancies... I'll rewrite those sections - Bathynia, Talis, Stone Phellysian, ruins, etc. More information coming. Give me a day or two to sort it out. Gotta dig through the notes.

[Eltern]

I definitely understand that there would be discrepencies in the records and legends, as the events in question took place --2,700 years ago--  In that sense, the fact that there are discrepencies is actually pretty cool. However, my players will almost definitely make it a point to release Rexilar from his prison, as they really need to talk to him. So, I want to have the hard facts on hand, just in case.

Of course, they might just figure that hunting around for the Stone Phellysian will be too hard, and so go up to Avar, instead. Ah well :-)

[avisarr]

If you want to start planning in advance, I can give you a rough outline of events just off the top of my head.

Rexilar did place himself in the Stone Phellysian. Details as to why he did it coming later. And it was Threll, his nemesis, who discovered him in there and basically used his magic to "bind" Rexilar in the Stone Phellysian. So, that's why Rexilar couldn't get out. Now, the Stone Phellysian was lost in the currents of history. Rexilar is still in there, in stassis. The Crimson Scourge is the secret group of phellysian sorcerers trying to find the Stone Phellysian and free Rexilar. So, it sounds like the party's objectives will overlap with that of the Crimson Scourge. Possible allies? Or perhaps competition? Your choice as to how you play that out.

Also, since Threll is the one who bound Rexilar to the statuette, the spells and rituals necessary to free Rexilar are (or where at one time) at Threll's fortress. So, it's possible the party may have to infiltrate the ruins of Threll's place to gather the clues and spells they need to perform the ritual.

The location of the Stone Phellysian is up to you. But one possibility is that the Crimson Scourge has already found it and they just haven't obtained the spells yet. So, it's possible that the party would have to go to BOTH sets of ruins - to Threll's fortress to get the ritual spells and then to Rexilar's fortress to get the Stone Phellysian. That would be a nice way to make sure the party goes deep into the territory of both nations. Lots of role playing potential there.

Anyway, those are just some thoughts. I'll add more detail to all of the revelant pages as soon as I can. Tonight if possible. (Since you've got a deadline).

[Eltern]

I wrote up a lengthy reply, but then the internet died over here for a second, and I lost it. So, I'll just ask one quick question:

How can Threll imprison Rexilar when he's dead from sickness? Or was the dating just a clerical error?

[tanis]

     If he imprisoned Rexilar, it had to be a clerical error. Remember, these are just David's rough and not-so-rough notes, and are not meant to be dogmatic in any way. Sorry to bring up the joke, but, and I have this problem a lot too, K. I. S. S., Keep It Simple. NO OFFENSE!!

[tanis]

     Hey, Eltern, Threll and Rexilar are fascinating subjects, aren't they.

[avisarr]

Yes, I admit... there was a clerical error in the dates in the original notes. And, as Tanis has pointed out, those notes are fairly rough. I am currently combining what's on the web site with a pile of old notes here. I will complete the write up of these notes and very soon, I'll post the completed history of both Bathynia and Talis. Including full details on Rexilar and Threll. It'll be fairly thorough. As a matter of fact, I'm going to add Talis and Bathynia to this month's spotlight.

Also, the ruins and the Stone Phellysian will get a slight rewrite so it all meshes together. 

Actually, this is good. The whole Talis/Bathynia history is one of those "rough" areas of the web site that was never fully completed. So, this is good motivation for me to straighten that section out a bit.

Give me one more day and I'll post everything.

[tanis]

     Here he comes to save the day! DAVID!

[tanis]

My Khoras campaign is starting back up next weekend, and so I'm back in the boards :-)

     Hey Eltern! I can't wait to here more about your campaign, I've been waiting for what's it been a month or two? Oh well, please post any new happenings as often as you can, if possible, daily would always be appreciated.

[Eltern]

Well, we only really run weekly, at best. And I've sworn off writing my own summaries of the sessions, because I always end up putting in details that I didn't tell the players. Then the players read the summaries and say "Wait a minute!" and go galvanting on some "clue" I left them, in a completely metagame fashion.

So, the summaries are up to my players. And evidentally my players are bums :-) I think we are two sessions behind in the campaign log, but it might be three. They spent at least one session in Asylum, then sailed out of there, running away from the Company. They're about to make landfall in Orrojek, on their way to Talis to "find Rexilar." There are a lot of details in between, of course, including the Ring of Flesh, Orctown, the Agrarian Guild, the Company, the Guild, mysterious amorphous attackers, suicide, etc. We'll see if I can't get one of my players to right those up.

As for what you're producing David: put up what you want to put up :-) It's your site. But if you want to detail persons, places and things that are going to be affecting my players, I would be nothing but pleased!

[avisarr]

Ok. The new notes are up. I "tweaked" the history of Talis and Bathynia... slightly.    I went over it a couple of times so hopefully there aren't any errors. If you see something out of whack, let me know and I'll try to iron out the wrinkles.

As with everything on the web site, use what you want. But feel free to alter whatever you need to for your campaign.